2010 Warhammer 40K Origins RTT Final Results

Posted by Ranillon on 19. July 2010 23:19

Here are the final, official results for the Origins Warhammer 40k Rogue Trader Tournament for 2010:

Name - Army	Battle	Sports	Painting	Total
Patrick Smith - Imperial Guard	57	15	16	88
Michael Hernandez - Tyranids	53	13	14	80
Joe Miksa - Space Marines	38	15	12	65
David Talbott - Necrons	34	14	15	64
Allen Blunt - Imperial Guard	30	14	14	59
Michael St. Clair - Daemonhunters	33	15	9	57
Ken Boone - Orks	24	15	17	56
Stuart Moll - Orks	32	14	9	56
Craig Collins - Dark Angels	27	13	14	54
Steven Olk - Imperial Guard	30	12	12	54
Joshua Shivak - Imperial Guard	31	15	7	53
Tom McFarland - Tau	30	14	8	52
Hyde Anderson - Nids	20	15	15	51
Michael Brown - Tyranids	31	14	4	50
Steven Beasley - Eldar	29	14	4	47
Nick Soika - Tau	18	12	11	41
Chris Kruso - Space Marines	22	15	4	41
Brian Vorhees - Orks	WD
CS Barnhaus - Space Marines	WD

Some notes on how the scoring was done --

Each player received a score of 0-5 in sportsmanship from each of his opponents giving a possible range of total sportsman results from 0-15
Battle scores are the sum total of the scenario points from all three games. The basic range was from 0-20 per game, but some extra bonus points could raise results over 20.
Five judges went through and graded painting individually from 0-20. Their totals were then averaged to get the final result. Anyone who did not put out their army to be judged received an automatic 4.
No one could win more than a single award
Eight people tied for Best Sportsman so the award went to the person with the worst OVERALL* score -- it's harder to be fun to play with when you are losing. (* EDIT - We intended for it to be lowest overall, to put the trophy within reach of someone new to the hobby, unlike all the other awards. It was not lowest battle score, we apologise for the typo.)
Ken Boone had the best painting score, but was disqualified from the Best Painter award because he did not personally paint his army. Likewise, as Patrick won Grand Champion he could not also claim Best Painter. The resulting tie between David and Hyde was decided in the former's favor after all the judges went back and reexamined the armies once again.

Our thanks to all who participated! We look forward to doing this again next year!

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Steven Beasley said,

• Various people tied for Best Sportsman so the award went to the person with the worst battle score -- it's harder to be fun to play with when you are losing.

So why didn't Hyde get best sportsman, he had a worse sportsmanship, but because he had a better painted army he didn't get best sportsman?

Madclaw said,

So, Chris Kruso got a 22 battle score and Hyde Anderson got a 20 battle score. Hyde was the lowest battle score tied for a 15, which means that he should have gotten the best sportsmanship award, right? Or, did I miss something?

gbprime said,

At the time Best Sportsman was determined, Hyde was still tied for best painting. The tiebreaker on that occurred afterward. We decided to let the Sportsmanship prize stand since Chris was tied for lowest overall as well as highest sportsmanship.

Steven Beasley said,

It may have been determined, but it wasn't awarded. Basically because Hyde had an awesomely painted army, and still got his butt kicked and was a good sport about he get's penalized. I think that makes him more of a good sport than if he didn't have his army painted or poorly painted.

Dom Casual said,

Actually, Nick Soika had the lowest battle score by this chart, not Hyde.

MegaDave said,

"Various people tied for Best Sportsman so the award went to the person with the worst battle score"

Except that it didn't - I'm confused, you had a formula to determine Best Sportsman, but the player that should have received it didn't because he could have potentially won a different award?

El Pee said,

Well, "deciding" to not follow your own scoring rules sort of says something now, doesn't it?

If your scoring rules had indicated that the Best Sportsmanship award went to the lowest "Total" score, then you did things exactly by the book and no one would have had any room to gripe and moan. However, your own scoring rules indicate "Battle" score, meaning Hyde got Best Sportsmanship. We all make mistakes, man up and own up to it instead of awkwardly making up something to cover up your mistake; people will respect you more.

If this isn't being driven by the need to cover up a mistake, then what is it driven by? I mean, you hadn't given awards out when you determined that Hyde actually won Sportsmanship, not Chris, had you? No one would have possibly known that there was this kind of flub up if you didn't decide to post all the scores and then make a lame excuse as to why one award went one way. In my opinion, and obviously this is just an opinion, you either decided to skip over Hyde for Sportsmanship (aka cheating your own system) or you're too stubborn to admit when you've made a mistake. Which is it?

gbprime said,

Please see my previous comment. We had an 8 way tie for best Sportsman, and it was determined by lowest OVERALL score of those 8, not lowest BATTLE score. We used overall SPECIFICALLY so that the sportsmanship trophy could be obtained potentially by someone quite new to the hobby, whose strengths were neither battle nor painting.

I have edited Ranillon's post, and noted it as an edit. My apologies if this typo has raised people's blood pressure, no bias or obfuscation was intended.

MegaDave said,

Thank you for the additional explanation; that makes more sense.

C Taylor said,

It would be interesting to see the army lists that people played with. What are the chances of posting those? I play orks and didn't get my army together for Origins this year but I would like to see what folks are fielding competatively.

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